thank you max for your comment -- this was interesting from the BBC recently https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20231012-how-every-workplace-became-toxic. love the notion of work fair. i also avoid asking people what they do for a living instead asking what brings you joy or what surprised you recently or what are you passionate about or what do you do for fun. often however people are so startled that it makes them feel ill at ease.... ;-( but then reflect.